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>> this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington. negotiating a surrender. the ivory coast. the president there is searching for a way out while searching for six -- safety. let's all of them here are concerned about the military groups and mercenary that have caused so much trouble. >> staying put. in an extensive interview, the son of muammar gaddafi dismisses reports that they are searching for their own exit. an investigation in the public, we will learn the real cause behind the crash.
welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. muammar gaddafi, determined to hang on. loren back boat of the ivory coast, he and his family have been hunkered down in the presidential palace. we have the report. >> these troops were resting at a petrol station this morning. this is the invading army.
abruptly, a radio announcement declares that the battle was over. the man refusing to give up power is preparing to surrender. >> if you say that it is too late, it is too late. i am not kamikaze. i love life. >> my voice is the voice of the martyr. i do not seek death. it is not my goal to die. >> this was the final straw. the united nations joined in a serious bombardment of his compound.
trapped in the cellar, his general defecting. a berlin moment. the man leading the attack tells me that there is nothing to celebrate. he says that he should have gone before. instead he waited until all of these people had been killed. only now he thinks it is the time to quit? he is abandoned, has lost the election. he must go. so, is it really over? we had cautiously into a ghost town. then, a rare sight, a group of civilians. here you do that moves outside without sure arms raised. >> another small group of civilians here, walking out of the city center. as you can see, they are raising their hands in the air.
the fear is still very strong. many of them are still concerned about militia groups and mercenaries. did indiscriminate killing over the past few days. >> by the roadside, a reminder every few yards. the price the city has paid. >> we are afraid. that is why we raise our hands. no water. nothing. the city is dead. we have walked far to find water. >> the victims sent out to restore order across the city. how long will that take? one soldier tells me quietly that now was the time for revenge. it has been a short war, it is nearly over. the dangers have not passed. >> just moments ago i spoke to aaron from the ivory coast's
main city. >> it was a very powerful piece. what is the latest on the negotiation? >> they seem to be dragging on for several hours. laurent gbagbo, clearly trying to cling to dignity as he haggles his way out of his bunker. i think that the look -- most likely scenario is that he will be offered and forced to accept some sort of exiled retirement in other african country. although plenty of people here would like to see him face trial. civility in the short term, likely he will leave. he gave an interview a short time ago where he clearly made it plain that he was leaving. not just him that was exiting, but the country that was facing a bleak future without him. >> considering the fact that these massacres have allegedly
been committed by both sides, what is the future for the ivory coast? >> in the short term, i thank, it is very unclear. forces are now trying to stabilize and will have to act quickly to prevent reprisal killings. there is much talk about that. there is a lot of ethnic tension and fury here. it needs careful handling. beyond that is the humanitarian problem in the city that we are not aware of the scale love. over the last five days, civilian casualties we can only guess at. in the long term, as you say, this is a divided country. the new president must try to
bring the two halves of the ivory coast back together. >> that is our correspondent in the thick of it in the ivory coast. libya, exporting oil in the east again for the first time in three weeks. this could give the rebels crucial cash. the son of colonel gaddafi has told the bbc that both he and his father are determined to stay put. john has this report. >> what began as an armed uprising has become a ward. western air power helping the rebels against the colonel's government. when i met this man, i thought he had put forth a peace proposal. instead, he gave his interpretation of the war. interference by the west, he said. >> the entire nation is
fighting. the armed militia. there are like 10, 20, 15 or more. melt they have the americans, the british, the french. that is why we are strong. >> the theme is defection from the gaddafi government. the foreign minister knows many of the regime's darkest secrets. but he insists that he left for health reasons and had no secret to tell. what's what can he do? >> you think that he is inventing stories? >> the british government, unless you cooperate, no amnesty. he is safe at home.
>> what about the future? well colonel gaddafi hang on to power? with it all end with his death? >> where will he go? the caribbean? zimbabwe? >> venezuela? [laughter] >> of course not. of course not. this time, we are fighting for the right cause. >> the latest almost sighting of colonel gaddafi on libyan television. except you cannot quite see them and we do not know where the pictures were filmed. he has lost half his country. in spite of the western intervention, his grip on the other half is still fairly strong. it is anyone's guess how the
stalemate will be broken. >> continuing our investigation, serious questions about western arms used against protesters and allied troops. these are just two of the export licenses that have been granted by the uk. sharp criticism is coming from lawmakers. our defense correspondent has this report. >> libya, egypt, bahrain. regimes that have used force in popular uprisings. all countries that, until recently, were being sold british made arms. including ammunition and tear gas for libya, sniper rifles and submachine guns for bahrain, and parts for our role -- armored vehicles that went to egypt.
this government and the previous labor administration have been accused of misjudging the risk of dealing armed weapons to regimes that might use them for armed repression. >> the scale of misjudgment is accurately reflected on the scale of the licenses they have had to revoke. as of today, they have provoked no less than 160 arms export licenses. an indication of the scale of the misjudgment that has taken place. >> only a few months ago the prime minister led a delegation of arms manufacturers. david cameron been defended that decision. one clear reason, it is important for the u.k. economy. the irony. britain is now targeting the forces served with those arms. they still insist that despite the strictest controls in the
world, this report concludes the government has yet to reconcile the drive for arms sales while upholding human life. >> in other news, state television in yemen is reporting three people killed between supporters of the president and soldiers that cited with the president stepped down. news clashes in the city where security forces opened fire on people protesting against the president. david cameron has spoken of his country's unbreakable bond with pakistan of his first visit since taking office. he says there is a shared interest in combating terrorism. his visit is being seen as an attempt to repair things caused by the act was it -- accusation last year that is, but was turning a blind eye to terror.
still to come on tonight's program, a new way to deal with the recession. saving precious cash by asking civilians to help solve crimes. in the two years since the air france jet crashed over the atlantic, searchers never get about. they have just finally done it. there is new hope of finding what caused the crash. but that kind of dogged searching is the exception, not the rule. >> the twisted carcasses of airplanes that failed to land safely. here at the respected air accident investigation branch, investigators will try to work out why. after every crash, there must be an investigation according to the rules set by -- set out by the un investigation agency. it is the country in which the
airplane crash that must once the probe. standards are not the same across the globe. >> there can be lack of resources. >> may 5, 2007, a kenya airways airplane crashed into a mangrove swamp in the cameroon jungle. black boxes were quickly recovered, but the plane damage was left scattered. aviation war -- lawyers worry that vital evidence has been lost. >> it is clear that evidence was not preserved and that other parts of the aircraft were left in the swamps. >> sometimes it seems that politics are clouding the evidence. this british investigators said that this crash report had been doctored. >> i have worked on three
investigations were the results were significantly different from what was thought to have happened. there is in fear it -- interference in the third world and from politicians. >> which is what has made these victims' families so angry. in 2009 a yemeni air flight crashed into the ocean. french and american analysis suggests that pilot error was the cause of the crash. the people claim that it is insulting to their national flag carrier. relatives feel caught up in a political rally. >> when we get the crash reports, there is complicity to hide the truth. despite so much suffering. believe me, those responsible will pay very dearly.
>> with so many influences riding on investigations, do we ever get the truth about why a plane crashes? >> for more on the international investigation i spoke with the former managing director of the u.s. national transportation safety board. welcome to the program. does the truth behind the reason for a crash really depend on the location for where it went down? >> unfortunately, that is probably true. worldwide there are 14 independent safety board's. meaning that the investigatory agency is completely independent of the regulatory, oversight, civil aviation authority. in those countries you are guaranteed a clean and clear investigation. there are numerous other countries where you can count on
the investigation, but sometimes it gets tied up in national pride, internal politics, insurance issues. >> who are the worst? >> it varies. generally countries that are new to the aviation world. ones that would find it embarrassing but top pilots made an error. what's the big issue at the moment is the skin. the outer layer. becoming torn off but they southwest flight that had to make an emergency landing in arizona. there is an investigation going on, but it is amazing that they are only now investigating to such an extent these airplanes. >> well, no one knew, no one realized that this was a potential threat.
that the area where the skin peeled back -- they knew that there were issues with the life span of the skin on an aircraft, but they did not know it was in this area. no one ever checked. >> extraordinary. let's i think that we will see the investigation regime changing dramatically out there. >> what else should we know about? >> the issue of aging aircraft is very challenging. airplanes that people thought would be retired after 15 or 20 years are flying for 30 or 40 years. it is a real challenge for the industry. >> not just an american concern. a global concern. >> it is worldwide. many of these older airplanes are flying in third world countries. >> looking at the economic stories making news today in global business connections, china has raised interest rates for the second time this year to
hold of rising inflation. the increased rate by 1/4 of a percentage point in an attempt to keep the economy from overheating and prices of food from skyrocketing. the portuguese struggling economy received another blow when moody's downgraded its credit rating for the second time in a month. trying to avoid an international rescue package, the situation made worse by the recent resignation of the government. in the united states the government may not be in danger of falling, but if they are going to come to a budget agreement that will have to do it soon, or they will have to shut them. a bold plan is aimed at curbing huge long-term budget deficits. we have the latest in developments. >> a self-styled young gun with a big idea.
slashing the deficit on an unprecedented scale. >> we propose to cut $6.20 trillion in the next 10 years. we will reduce the debt as a percentage of the economy and put the nation on the path to pay off national debt. the goal here is to leave our children and grandchildren with a debt cremation. >> the bold pledge is built on a controversial foundation. the restructuring of medicare and government-funded health care for the elderly. republicans want to introduce federal subsidies for private health insurance. in an waterlog washington, some of the visitors from the cherry blossom festival interpreted this as an attack on the elderly. >> they are the ones that helped to build this country. they went to world war ii and helped to maintain what we
strive to have. >> we have worked our way. we have had our time. >> by proposing such radical cuts, republicans say that they are answering the call of history. but there is another budget the but -- budget debate taking place this week that is much more pressing. >> for months the president says his opponents have failed to meet an agreement on the budget for this year. cut to $33 billion of possible. if they cannot compromise by friday night, the government will shut down. >> it would be inexcusable for us to not be able to take care of last year's business. keep in mind, we are dealing with a budget that could have gotten done three months ago, two months ago, last month. we are this close, simply
because of politics. >> neither side wants to be rhymed to 1995 when the government shutdown, the grand canyon close the gates, and federal buildings fell silent. history is that a little closer to repeating itself. >> of course, we will be reporting and analyze and that development as it develops. and the aftermath as well. if you need a loan and need to get your fiscal house in order, state and local governments have huge deficits. they have had to cut everything. paul adams has been to arizona, which is trying to replace expensive police officers with local civilian alternatives. >> this is our investigator with the mesa police department. you called in saying someone had taken bribes from your back patio?
>> she sounds like a polite cop. squint a bit and she even looks like one. but there is no gun and no handcuffs. hers is only a tiny unit but already her civilian investigators deal with half of all of the theft cases. they write 10% of all of the crime reports. >> on a typical day, if i was not here, this kind of call could sit and the victim could wait anywhere from four hours to six hours for an officer to be available. my job is to get there quicker. >> did they enter the house? >> to get them a customer service that they need so that they are not victimized twice. 80 officers have been lost because of budget cuts. there is a lot less money for traditional police work. these days when you report a burglary, chances are a civilian investigator will
arrive. >> for the uniformed officers, this means more time chasing criminals and less time taking phone calls. >> these people did a better job than the officers were doing anyways. >> we have a lot of problems with gang members. let's not everyone is convinced that this is about policing on the cheap. investigators hired at the expense of the force as a whole. >> some of the beets do not get officers assigned to them. if people do not know it, there is no officer on their be. >> a necessity following the recess in and budget cuts in this sprawling desert city. but the republican mayor says he is grateful. >> we have to realize that the way we did things last year does not fit in the modern world. what the financial crisis did is
it gave us the freedom to be very creative without the push that we would normally get. >> someone stole a motor out of the back of a house that was for sale. >> is there usually a lock on the gate? >> plenty of other police forces have civilian investigators, but nowhere do they perform such a wide range of duties. other cash strapped cities are looking with interest at the model in mesa. bbc news, mesa, arizona. >> that is all for tonight broadcast. you can always get the latest on our web site and get in touch with me on twitter. from all of us here, thank you so much for watching. see you again tomorrow.
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